Comments on: Baguettes Tradition http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html Wine Tasting in Paris, Wine Classes and Wine Events Tue, 15 May 2012 20:02:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jacques1 http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-22203 Jacques1 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:30:35 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-22203 P.S. I think your html has a bug. Your formatting string "%A %B %e%q, %Y at %I:%M %p" is being displayed, instead of whatever it is supposed to format. --J P.S. I think your html has a bug. Your formatting string “%A %B %e%q, %Y at %I:%M %p” is being displayed, instead of whatever it is supposed to format. –J

]]> By: Jacques1 http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-22201 Jacques1 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:29:14 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-22201 Pardon me my ignorance, but I still can't ascertain what the difference is between a 'tradi' and a regular baguette. As the the rest, I love this blog, and I really hope that the saying is true, that when good Americans die they go to Paris. My favorite place on earth, can't believe people get to live there. Jim Pardon me my ignorance, but I still can’t ascertain what the difference is between a ‘tradi’ and a regular baguette.

As the the rest, I love this blog, and I really hope that the saying is true, that when good Americans die they go to Paris. My favorite place on earth, can’t believe people get to live there.

Jim

]]> By: Moktarama http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-5461 Moktarama Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:00:52 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-5461 I was writing that as a parisian myself ;-) And if agree that "on average" the parisian baguette is mildly better, it seems to me that the baguette stays closely related to the baker, and there is no less quality variation in Paris than elsewhere in France, thus making it very difficult to speak "on average" . Simple exemple in the 14th : quality is almost painfully awful in Denfert's different bakeries (for a tradi price ranging between 1€10 and 1€30) , but in the Losserand Pernety area you'll find two of the bests bakeries in Paris almost face to face and numerous acceptable ones (with a uniform price of 1€) . PS in french : je coupe les cheveux en quatre, certes... disons que je pinaille parce que vous tombez d'habitude tellement juste qu'on en devient exigeant ;-) I was writing that as a parisian myself ;-)

And if agree that “on average” the parisian baguette is mildly better, it seems to me that the baguette stays closely related to the baker, and there is no less quality variation in Paris than elsewhere in France, thus making it very difficult to speak “on average” .

Simple exemple in the 14th : quality is almost painfully awful in Denfert’s different bakeries (for a tradi price ranging between 1€10 and 1€30) , but in the Losserand Pernety area you’ll find two of the bests bakeries in Paris almost face to face and numerous acceptable ones (with a uniform price of 1€) .

PS in french : je coupe les cheveux en quatre, certes… disons que je pinaille parce que vous tombez d’habitude tellement juste qu’on en devient exigeant ;-)

]]> By: Olivier Magny http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-5222 Olivier Magny Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:36:30 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-5222 Poulette... Oh boy!! What's next? Paolo Coehlo?! Stéphan... I try to fight the plagues of modernity. But I don't think Tradis are one. It's not like la baguette is disappearing, it's just being pimped. 4-string Chris... Thank you very much! And welcome I guess. Your remarks: 1- Is there an ocean in the 14th? 2 - Just came back from one, which was, I must admit, outstanding!! 3 - You're the second pro classical musician commenting. Crazy!! How many of you is it? 4 - La résistance!! 5 - I didn't know that - Thanks. Merci en tout cas. Moktarama... ;-) Oh, I know it's not only a Parisian thing. But I'm happuy to claim that bread on average tastes much better n Paris than in the rest of the country (boom). Poulette… Oh boy!! What’s next? Paolo Coehlo?!
Stéphan… I try to fight the plagues of modernity. But I don’t think Tradis are one. It’s not like la baguette is disappearing, it’s just being pimped.
4-string Chris… Thank you very much! And welcome I guess. Your remarks: 1- Is there an ocean in the 14th? 2 – Just came back from one, which was, I must admit, outstanding!! 3 – You’re the second pro classical musician commenting. Crazy!! How many of you is it? 4 – La résistance!! 5 – I didn’t know that – Thanks. Merci en tout cas.
Moktarama… ;-) Oh, I know it’s not only a Parisian thing. But I’m happuy to claim that bread on average tastes much better n Paris than in the rest of the country (boom).

]]> By: Moktarama http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-4111 Moktarama Fri, 28 May 2010 12:12:57 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-4111 At least a post I don't agree with ;-) The Tradi thing is as french as parisian, for a very simple reason : in the 90's, bread had become more and more industrial (particularly due to supermarkets and a non negligeable part of bakeries) , and following lobbying from some professionnal introduced a legal and additive free recepy named "pain de tradition française" . The law is here : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexteArticle.do;jsessionid=DFBE62EF7283600CDD7AEC565768A250.tpdjo06v_1?idArticle=LEGIARTI000006933917&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006082658&dateTexte=20100528 Since that law, the Tradi has enjoyed a great success in our country (despite its higher price than of the white-breaded baguette) and absolutely not only in Paris - but that's an obvious parisian trait, isn't it ? ;-) At least a post I don’t agree with ;-)

The Tradi thing is as french as parisian, for a very simple reason : in the 90′s, bread had become more and more industrial (particularly due to supermarkets and a non negligeable part of bakeries) , and following lobbying from some professionnal introduced a legal and additive free recepy named “pain de tradition française” . The law is here : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexteArticle.do;jsessionid=DFBE62EF7283600CDD7AEC565768A250.tpdjo06v_1?idArticle=LEGIARTI000006933917&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006082658&dateTexte=20100528

Since that law, the Tradi has enjoyed a great success in our country (despite its higher price than of the white-breaded baguette) and absolutely not only in Paris – but that’s an obvious parisian trait, isn’t it ? ;-)

]]> By: 4-string Chris http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-3074 4-string Chris Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:32:07 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-3074 Hi Olivier, Just discovered your blog, read a lot of it in a row, wow... cannot list everything but please keep this personal vision, "finesse", accuracy, humour, and distance... a few comments - on various topics : 1) I do know Parisian people who wear vareuses, sailman cap, etc., rent a house in Brittany for ages and never put a foot on a boat, that was great masterpiece, bravo - maybe we should suggest them to create an union... ah, sorry it already exists : it is called the 14th district. 2) I'd go even beyond the last sentence concerning marriages : "écoute ça me saoûlait un peu d'y aller ben finalement c'était PIRE que ce que je pensais". I look always forward the marriage announcements with fear every year ; NONE THIS SUMMER, YES !!! 3) as a classical musician, my statement is even worse than yours : Parisian (those reputaded having a solid culture) have no clue what this music is and they even don't pretend knowing anything (ok, maybe more the old ones do) ; I think it explains a lot the lack of interest/knowledge of politicians on music + well done on the 'relaxing' thing, typical from the worst part of them 4)Regular tomatoes taste awful since the producers only aim at making very solid fruits, able to support tons of themselves during transportation ; my grandfather had to cope with those guys 20 years ago and one day they answered him : "Le goût ? Pourquoi faire ?". Sincerely. So be gentle with cherry tomatoes! 5)For the records, I think France almost invented dubbing, we were the only ones to have it until very recently. Everyone in the world had VOST before, not only Parisian. Sorry ! Ok I have to go thanks again et continue à nous faire rire Hi Olivier,
Just discovered your blog, read a lot of it in a row, wow…
cannot list everything but please keep this personal vision, “finesse”, accuracy, humour, and distance…
a few comments – on various topics :
1) I do know Parisian people who wear vareuses, sailman cap, etc., rent a house in Brittany for ages and never put a foot on a boat, that was great masterpiece, bravo – maybe we should suggest them to create an union… ah, sorry it already exists : it is called the 14th district.
2) I’d go even beyond the last sentence concerning marriages : “écoute ça me saoûlait un peu d’y aller ben finalement c’était PIRE que ce que je pensais”. I look always forward the marriage announcements with fear every year ; NONE THIS SUMMER, YES !!!
3) as a classical musician, my statement is even worse than yours : Parisian (those reputaded having a solid culture) have no clue what this music is and they even don’t pretend knowing anything (ok, maybe more the old ones do) ; I think it explains a lot the lack of interest/knowledge of politicians on music
+ well done on the ‘relaxing’ thing, typical from the worst part of them
4)Regular tomatoes taste awful since the producers only aim at making very solid fruits, able to support tons of themselves during transportation ; my grandfather had to cope with those guys 20 years ago and one day they answered him : “Le goût ? Pourquoi faire ?”. Sincerely. So be gentle with cherry tomatoes!
5)For the records, I think France almost invented dubbing, we were the only ones to have it until very recently. Everyone in the world had VOST before, not only Parisian. Sorry !

Ok I have to go
thanks again et continue à nous faire rire

]]> By: Stéphan http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2790 Stéphan Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:58:30 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-2790 Olivier, no offense here ;) Tradis taste good... but I am a bit worried. I read recently you changed you mind about Facebook, iPhones, now tradis... sounds like rampant parisianism... please tell me it ain't so :) Stéphan Olivier,
no offense here ;)
Tradis taste good…

but I am a bit worried. I read recently you changed you mind about Facebook, iPhones, now tradis… sounds like rampant parisianism…

please tell me it ain’t so :)

Stéphan

]]> By: Poulette http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2752 Poulette Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:21:47 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-2752 Doh! I don't mind a green tea either! Doh! I don’t mind a green tea either!

]]> By: admin http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2729 admin Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:05:04 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-2729 Peter... I do my best to instill a sense of decadence in this city. Not easy! Lil... Eating cheese on the way home is unhord of! Bread yes, cheese is a whole different story!! Andrew... Icing thought. Resistance! Elizabeth... Well, emotions are intimate - parties somewhere between too much and not enough! Barbra... Well, I'm no bread historian, but growing up in Paris, baguettes tradition did not exist. Plus I'm always suspicious of anything called "tradition". But no matter if it's traditional or not - it sure tastes good. All in all, bread has never been as good as it is today. And there is sure is a type of bread fro everyone in those bakeries. Soon, you'll need a PhD to buy bread! Poulette... Well, it's a bit like liking green tea, let's say!! Peter… I do my best to instill a sense of decadence in this city. Not easy!
Lil… Eating cheese on the way home is unhord of! Bread yes, cheese is a whole different story!!
Andrew… Icing thought. Resistance!
Elizabeth… Well, emotions are intimate – parties somewhere between too much and not enough!
Barbra… Well, I’m no bread historian, but growing up in Paris, baguettes tradition did not exist. Plus I’m always suspicious of anything called “tradition”. But no matter if it’s traditional or not – it sure tastes good. All in all, bread has never been as good as it is today. And there is sure is a type of bread fro everyone in those bakeries. Soon, you’ll need a PhD to buy bread!
Poulette… Well, it’s a bit like liking green tea, let’s say!!

]]> By: Poulette http://www.o-chateau.com/stuff-parisians-like/baguettes-tradition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2706 Poulette Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:34:48 +0000 http://www.o-chateau.com/?p=2360#comment-2706 This explains SO much! Is it really so cliched that i prefer les céréales? This explains SO much!
Is it really so cliched that i prefer les céréales?

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